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Turtle-Man

How Do You THINK the world started

I hate it when people say 'this IS what happened' when there is no actual proof.

But it's such a vast subject, I thought I'd get some of you guys opinions...

How do you beleive the world started?
Big Bang?
God?
Other?

Thanks.
Me, I'm still undecided.
KCLiVeS

There is finite proof for the big bang
Fizzy

Should be in discussion/debate section

I think it was a brilliant coincidence
Turtle-Man

KCLiVES wrote:
There is finite proof for the big bang


No, people can say thats there view, but there is no actual proof that, that is how the world started.

Nobody saw it, or took a film of it or anything did they? Its a view. Not a fact.
king_of_games

Actually there is proof of the big bang. There is proof that the universe was created from one single point due to a rapid expansion of matter. the real question is what caused the big bang
KCLiVeS

RobertoRoboto wrote:
KCLiVES wrote:
There is finite proof for the big bang


No, people can say thats there view, but there is no actual proof that, that is how the world started.

Nobody saw it, or took a film of it or anything did they? Its a view. Not a fact.


No they're is scientific proof for the big-bang theory. For example red/blue shift, the amonts of elements present in the universe, and cosmic microwave background radiation.
Turtle-Man

Fizzy - Oh yeh, sorry, mods please move

king_of_games wrote:
Actually there is proof of the big bang. There is proof that the universe was created from one single point due to a rapid expansion of matter. the real question is what caused the big bang


But it's not certain there was a big bang, its possible, but not certain.

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kc: I'm not doubting it, but you cant say its certain.. If you are certain, where did the big bang come from?
Fazz

you are all wrong its 10000000000000000000000000etc%   God
ryberto

the universe is always expanding moving outwards from the centre i think you'll find which shows there was a force or explosion that took place to cause that.
Turtle-Man

Fazz wrote:
you are all wrong its 10000000000000000000000000etc%   God


Tell me more about this figure you call 'God'

Is he a human in yours eyes?
Where did he come from?
How did he have these powers?

Please explain.

I am not saying no to any of you, I'm just saying you cannot prove it is exactly true, it could be, but there is no way of knowing for sure...
KCLiVeS

RobertoRoboto wrote:
Fizzy - Oh yeh, sorry, mods please move

king_of_games wrote:
Actually there is proof of the big bang. There is proof that the universe was created from one single point due to a rapid expansion of matter. the real question is what caused the big bang


But it's not certain there was a big bang, its possible, but not certain.

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kc: I'm not doubting it, but you cant say its certain.. If you are certain, where did the big bang come from?


A super heated, super dense singularity of plasma.  Which exploded under its own strain creating time and space.
ryberto

the fact is obviously no one can no for sure but one with evedience to support that theory and facts to back up the big bang is the most likely and scientifically possible
Turtle-Man

KCLiVES wrote:
RobertoRoboto wrote:
Fizzy - Oh yeh, sorry, mods please move

king_of_games wrote:
Actually there is proof of the big bang. There is proof that the universe was created from one single point due to a rapid expansion of matter. the real question is what caused the big bang


But it's not certain there was a big bang, its possible, but not certain.

-
kc: I'm not doubting it, but you cant say its certain.. If you are certain, where did the big bang come from?


A super heated, super dense singularity of plasma.  Which exploded under its own strain creating time and space.


Where did this super heated super dense singularity of plasma come from?

And I think you've knocked the nail on the head ryberto, I couldnt agree more
KCLiVeS

RobertoRoboto wrote:
KCLiVES wrote:
RobertoRoboto wrote:
Fizzy - Oh yeh, sorry, mods please move

king_of_games wrote:
Actually there is proof of the big bang. There is proof that the universe was created from one single point due to a rapid expansion of matter. the real question is what caused the big bang


But it's not certain there was a big bang, its possible, but not certain.

-
kc: I'm not doubting it, but you cant say its certain.. If you are certain, where did the big bang come from?


A super heated, super dense singularity of plasma.  Which exploded under its own strain creating time and space.


Where did this super heated super dense singularity of plasma come from?

And I think you've knocked the nail on the head ryberto, I couldnt agree more


From the condensation of a previous universe
Turtle-Man

KCLiVES wrote:
RobertoRoboto wrote:
KCLiVES wrote:
RobertoRoboto wrote:
Fizzy - Oh yeh, sorry, mods please move

king_of_games wrote:
Actually there is proof of the big bang. There is proof that the universe was created from one single point due to a rapid expansion of matter. the real question is what caused the big bang


But it's not certain there was a big bang, its possible, but not certain.

-
kc: I'm not doubting it, but you cant say its certain.. If you are certain, where did the big bang come from?


A super heated, super dense singularity of plasma.  Which exploded under its own strain creating time and space.


Where did this super heated super dense singularity of plasma come from?

And I think you've knocked the nail on the head ryberto, I couldnt agree more


From the condensation of a previous universe


And where did that come from?

(This could take a while)
The fact is, I cant prove thats how it didnt happen, but you cant prove thats how it did happen.
KCLiVeS

I know
a l e x

Big Bang

I'm an Atheist

I do not think God created the World htf can he lol
Paddy

Jack, Joey and Eddie all came online at the SAME TIME (<<lol), The forum couldnt cope with the fact that not one, not two, but THREE admins were online so it caused the whole universe to explode and do everything kc said above cos it sounded clever.
ryberto

Paddy wrote:
Jack, Joey and Eddie all came online at the SAME TIME (<<lol), The forum couldnt cope with the fact that not one, not two, but THREE admins were online so it caused the whole universe to explode and do everything kc said above cos it sounded clever.


lol its a sound theory lets just hope it doesnt happen again but then again what are the chances of that ever happening?
Turtle-Man

Paddy wrote:
Jack, Joey and Eddie all came online at the SAME TIME (<<lol), The forum couldnt cope with the fact that not one, not two, but THREE admins were online so it caused the whole universe to explode and do everything kc said above cos it sounded clever.


ROFL...

Though, Big bang is much more likely.
KCLiVeS

RobertoRoboto wrote:
Paddy wrote:
Jack, Joey and Eddie all came online at the SAME TIME (<<lol), The forum couldnt cope with the fact that not one, not two, but THREE admins were online so it caused the whole universe to explode and do everything kc said above cos it sounded clever.


ROFL...

Though, Big bang is much more likely.


ROFLZ.

So true.
StacFace

Yep, I personally believe in the big bang as religions to me seem to be too much like they came from a fairytale book and people just want them to be true.
minxybeca

The Big Bang is a model, it's the most likely cause for how the world started. I believe in that theory.
KCLiVeS

minxybeca wrote:
The Big Bang is a model, it's the most likely cause for how the world started. I believe in that theory.

w00t
+1 for the BB Theory.
Turtle-Man

Big Bang seems the most popular here, but the point I was/am trying to make is that there is no actual real proof. It's like minxybeca said:

minxybeca wrote:
The Big Bang is a model, it's the most likely cause for how the world started. I believe in that theory.


A Theory.

Apart from Big Bang and god (And paddys SwapitShop Lounge) theory, does anybody beleive in something different? None of those things???

Anyways, I'm still torn, no idea what to think!
KCLiVeS

There are other theories, in fact the name "Big Bang" was created by a scientist in opposition to the theory (i.e. in favour of another theory) as a joke, however it stuck . TBBT is the most popular among scientists today, but there are other theories.
Turtle-Man

Anyone care to name a few of these 'Other Theories' ?
StacFace

'God' had too much curry sauce and the universe shot out of his rear end...maybe?
KCLiVeS

RobertoRoboto wrote:
Anyone care to name a few of these 'Other Theories' ?

Steady-State Theory is one I know of:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steady_state_model
ryberto

there are quite few decent theories but none with as much 'evidence' and facts to suggest that they are true or less likely
Turtle-Man

StacFace wrote:
'God' had too much curry sauce and the universe shot out of his rear end...maybe?


Lolz, well, anythings possible

KCLiVES wrote:
RobertoRoboto wrote:
Anyone care to name a few of these 'Other Theories' ?

Steady-State Theory is one I know of:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steady_state_model


Oh cool, thanks.

Just been having a look through it, not to sure on that theory...
KCLiVeS

ryberto wrote:
there are quite few decent theories but none with as much 'evidence' and facts to suggest that they are true or less likely


TBBT has much more "proof" than all the others.
ryberto

yeah the thing with pretty much all the others is there is a big thing that stands in its way like a part of physics or certain inconsistancies with science and the positoning of things in the universe like the steady- state has many things that prove it innacurate like positioning of certain things in the universe when they supposedly shoud be a constant throughout.

the big bang theory doesnt really have any massive things against it it just doesnt have solid proof even if it is the most likely theory it would take a definite proof to show it was what happened
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