The paranormal

gaztheghost · The paranormal

What are your views on life after death? ( if you have one at all )

Do you believe the soul survives bodily death, or do you believe when we die that is it, we cease to exist.

Maybe you have witnessed the paranormal, ie, saw a ghost, or you have witnessed something that cannot be logicaly explained. I know I have witnessed a ghostly encounter and firmly believe there is mre to our lives after our deaths that sceince as yet to proof.

I would like to make this a poll so members can vote wether they believe or not, but don't quite know how to make it into a forum poll, so if a mod could do it for me I would be greatful.

minxybeca

I believe in ghosts and all that, i find it facinating.
A few members of my family have had paranormal experiences, i hope i do too, i think it would be amazing.

Josh

I added a pole

Also I am undecided. I think that there may be but I am not 100% sure, however I will be when I encounter a ghost,lol

Josh

iliveinireland

i saw a ghost

Nadeem

I'm not really sure. I think that their is life after death as I find it hard to believe that when you die, your dead for good. I never use to believe that but recently my mum became a medium (talks to dead people) and she has some quite solid proof

You have to be their though. It's the experience

gaztheghost

I have been to some very spooky places and witnessed a number of unexplainable things.

Borley Church I saw a dark figure at the back of the church although the image lasted only a few seconds, it scared the living day lights out of me and had me running back to the safety of the car.

Chingle Hall. I spent a night here with a well known ghost hunting team, and witnessed the draw bridge lowering, although there is no draw bridge in opperation, but I deffinately heard it.

RAF Coleby Grange. I was here with 4 other people in daylight, and distinctly heard a heavy metallic object being dragged across the floor up stairs, yet the upstairs was at the time empty. Later that night a friend was violently pushed on the stairs.

Skidbrokke Church. I have witnessed strange noises coming from the church, although the church at the time was empty. I have also taken numerous photos and when developed strange mists and orbs have appeard on the resulting photos.

All in all the most convincing evidence was the dark black figure at Borley Church. It was a frightening experience.

gaztheghost

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Joey

I Belive In Ghosts, And Life After Death Somewhere, But Not Really Sure As Ive Never Actually Seen Anything

Fizzy

Despite hearing many stories about people seeing/sensing ghosts, I don't personally believe in life after death.

My beliefs regarding the soul are that I don't believe that the soul/spirit can exist outside the body, and I also don't believe that we are born with somebody elses soul from a previous generation. I believe that the 'soul' is merely your personality, which is created by life experiences and also partially influenced by your genes. I think that life after death is an idea created by humans to help us be able to deal with death, and that once the body is dead the so called 'soul' dies with it.

People who claim to have contact with the 'other side' or who have supposedly witnessed something that could be described as supernatural, are in my opinion experiencing such things for a number of non-supernatural reasons. Firstly the mind is a very powerful thing and when placed in certain situations people can make a lot of assumptions. For example in a dark and spooky place people kind of expect to experience something out of the ordinary such as a ghost or a strange noise because of things they have read or heard about - I mean it's the classic setting in books isn't it. So my theory is that people either invent things that they see or hear in the mind, or alternatively they see illusions or hear sounds that happen merely by chance and are caused by normal tangable things.

By the way if anyone is really interested in this sort of topic, do A-Level Philosophy or RE because I did an A-Level in RE which covered both Philosophy and Ethics and it really gets you thinking

gaztheghost

Fizzy

Amazing_swaps

Its a very good topic really ermm I think I belive that when you die you like are dead and thats that really sorry but I think that is what happeneds and also I belive in ghosts lol dunoo why though but I have been to very spooky places like a chruch but every thing was black and old no one was in it lol as well I was just a vistor so I don't really know what I can tell you it vary's really!

Mario

I think there is something,but not what we all think it is,Not ghosts but something else just there.I don't know why I think that..

gaztheghost

Fizzy

During my A-Level when we did a topic about the paranormal and the soul and things, we watched a couple of videos where someone supposedly had an out of body experience and also this house that had a poltergeist in it.

In the out of body experience the man was in hospital and said he floated up to the ceiling and could see his body below being medically treated, then he re-entered his body.

In the poltergeist story, it moved/shook furniture and also levitated the little girl above her bed and the postman outside apparently saw her hovering by the window... They got a specialist in and tried to make contact with the spirit and they picked up a voice speaking to them.

It was actually really spooky to watch even though I'm really materialistic and have scientific thinking. I can't think of explanations as to why all of those things happened, but then again there's so much us humans have yet to discover in this world - space and the universe for a start.

gaztheghost

I can remember a team of investigators whom did an experiment by which they actually thought up a ghost/spirit. They filmed it and gave it a name, ( Can't remember though what name ) It moved objects on command, and commuicated in different ways.

It was only when certain members lost their belief in it's presence that the spirit ceased to communicate? All this was filmed and witnessed by scientific groups. So yes the power of the mind is something that will never be fully understood. I will try and find out what the experiment was called, and the team behind it.

thanks for your input.

gaztheghost

Right have found the report on the spirit, it makes for an intereting read: Enjoy

In the 1970's, a group of Canadian parapsychologists wanted to attempt an experiment to create a ghost, proving their theory that the human mind can produce spirits through expectation, imagination and visualization.

The actual experiment took place in Toronto, Canada, in 1972, under the direction of the world-renown expert on poltergeists, Dr A. R. G. Owen.

The members of the experiment proposed an idea... by using extreme and prolonged concentration, they could create their ghost through a collective thought form: Non-physical entities which exist in either the mental or astral plane. In order to create this ghost and make it as 'real' as possible, it needed a life story; a background in which the ghost could 'relate' to.

They named the ghost they were attempting to bring into focus "Philip Aylesford" and created a tragic story, explaining to the fullest and in great detail, his life, and the few actions that lead to his tragic death.

Step two was contacting Philip. In September 1972, the group began their "sittings" and after some initial problems the group attempted to duplicate the atmosphere of a classic spiritualist séance. They dimmed the room's lights, sat around a table and surrounded themselves with pictures of the type of castle they imagined Philip would have lived in, as well as objects from that time period.

Within a few weeks, Philip made contact. Although he did not manifest in spiritual form, appearing as an apparition or ghost, he did make contact through a brief rap on the group's table. "Philip" answered questions that were consistent with his fictitious history, but was unable to provide any information beyond that which the group had conceived. However, "Philip" did give other historically accurate information about real events and people. The Owen group theorized that this latter information came from their own collective unconsciousness.

The sessions took off from there, producing a range of phenomena that could not be explained scientifically. His "spirit" was able to move the table, sliding it from side to side. On more than one occasion, the table chased someone across the room. All hands were clear of the table when this occurred.

In conclusion the experimenters were never able to prove the 'how' and the 'why' behind Philip's manifestation. Was Philip a direct result of the group's collective subconscious or perhaps did they conjure an actual entity that simply latched onto the story?

While some would conclude that they prove that ghosts don't exist, that such things are in our minds only, others say that our unconscious could be responsible for this kind of the phenomena some of the time.

Another point of view is that even though Philip was completely fictional, the Owen group really did contact the spirit world. A playful (or perhaps demonic, some would argue) spirit took the opportunity of these séances to 'act' as Philip and produce the extraordinary psychokinetic phenomena recorded.

Whatever caused the manifestation it seems that it adapted itself to the expectation of the audience, playing the role of the spirit they intended to contact. Since all was based on fiction it could not be the spirit of Philip so what else could it be?

*Jack*

'I am a ghost visiting this website!' LOL

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micyman

lol i beleave in this ghost thing coz i swaer 2 god i saw one at midnight on christmas 2000 and again on new years exep that one was clearer

Nadeem

Maybe it was the ghost of christmas past, present and future

micyman

dont take the weewee

Nadeem

micyman

i know sorry i just got a lil bit stressed

gags

gaz when you say the table moved where the people asleep or what

Peew4K

I think when you see the light when you are dying, you are coming out as a baby, out of the womb, would that be reincarnation?

Katie915

Hmmm im open to the concept of the paranormal etc etc i find it very interesting.....but if there is something well put it this way-I dont wanna know about it lol creeps me out

oj-the-man

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