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Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 3:40 am Post subject: |
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I really wouldn't worry about it, sunspot flares happen regularly, every few years there is a period of heightened activity, 2007 was a high sunpot activity year and apart from a few satellites failing, which happens each time there is a flare up, the world didn't come to an end.
As for the polar reversal, every few hundred thousand years the magnetic poles reverse without warning, nobody knows when this will happen, yes the results could be catastrophic, but it is impossible to predict when, and if it does happen everything on the planet will be killed instantly as the atmosphere would be stripped off the planet and everything on the planet would be bombarded by cosmic rays killing it instantaneously, if they really believed this was going to happen why are they taking precautions to survive it?, as it is utterly impossible to survive as the planets surface would be irradiated, cooked to a crisp and no atmosphere would be left and every drop of water on teh planet would have boiled off into steam and drifted off into space.
Where the guy mentions the sun will rise in the West is absolute nonsense, not unless the Earths orbit goes into reverse which is impossible unless some larger celestial body moves near the earth pulling us in the opposite direction of our curent orbit.
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Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 8:44 am Post subject: |
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Lol, I wouldnt worry to much, I reckon we have a bit longer to live then 2012, I hope so anyway.
The world will carry on till the 6/6/6666 in 6th hour 6th minute ... all that stuff.
By which time we will all be sand turtles with time machines.
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Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 12:18 pm Post subject: |
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ROFFFFFFFFFFFFL anyone with any amount of common sense can see that that is grapes.
As for:
"As for the polar reversal, every few hundred thousand years the magnetic poles reverse without warning, nobody knows when this will happen, yes the results could be catastrophic, but it is impossible to predict when, and if it does happen everything on the planet will be killed instantly as the atmosphere would be stripped off the planet and everything on the planet would be bombarded by cosmic rays killing it instantaneously, if they really believed this was going to happen why are they taking precautions to survive it?, as it is utterly impossible to survive as the planets surface would be irradiated, cooked to a crisp and no atmosphere would be left and every drop of water on teh planet would have boiled off into steam and drifted off into space."
Since when does polar reversal cause the atmosphere to be stripped off? Polar reversal will happen soon enough, the earths magnetic north moves around 10km south each year. All it will do is screw up GPS and satellites.... for which, no doubt we will be prepared. _________________ 
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Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 12:34 pm Post subject: |
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oh no we'll have to change the satnav and the gps so were not off by a couple of metres.
as for anything like this just ignore them as its just scientists coming up with theories that may be true but never do what they think they will i mean how many times are we supposedly gonna get hit by an asteroid or meteorite.
theres so many of these things come out every year and only the obvious ones like global warming and ones that will happen in about 100 years or so just so when they dont hapen there not around to get the blaim
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Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 1:27 pm Post subject: |
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This sounds like when they predicted the computer servers wouldn't be able to handle the year 2000, or whatever that fuss was about (I was only 7 at the time).
It'll just have a few effects on us that won't even be that bad then it'll be all over... until the next prediction date for the end of the world anyway.
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Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 2:57 pm Post subject: |
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| KCLiVES wrote: | ROFFFFFFFFFFFFL anyone with any amount of common sense can see that that is *censored*.
As for:
"As for the polar reversal, every few hundred thousand years the magnetic poles reverse without warning, nobody knows when this will happen, yes the results could be catastrophic, but it is impossible to predict when, and if it does happen everything on the planet will be killed instantly as the atmosphere would be stripped off the planet and everything on the planet would be bombarded by cosmic rays killing it instantaneously, if they really believed this was going to happen why are they taking precautions to survive it?, as it is utterly impossible to survive as the planets surface would be irradiated, cooked to a crisp and no atmosphere would be left and every drop of water on teh planet would have boiled off into steam and drifted off into space."
Since when does polar reversal cause the atmosphere to be stripped off? Polar reversal will happen soon enough, the earths magnetic north moves around 10km south each year. All it will do is screw up GPS and satellites.... for which, no doubt we will be prepared. |
The Earths Magnetic field charges the ionosphere, which deflects the majority of Cosmic Radiation, any interuption to that process will cause the ionosphere to depolarize and allow radiation to hit the surface.
Seems to me you are confusing the effect of solar flares with the effect of polar shift, I suggest you go back and read my original post, if you do not believe me go and ask your physics teacher.
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Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 3:12 pm Post subject: |
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| StacFace wrote: | This sounds like when they predicted the computer servers wouldn't be able to handle the year 2000, or whatever that fuss was about (I was only 7 at the time).
It'll just have a few effects on us that won't even be that bad then it'll be all over... until the next prediction date for the end of the world anyway. |
As for the Millenium bug, only whackos thought the world was going to end, but what would have happened is a lot of older computer systems that controlled infrastructure such as power plants, chemical factories, transport systems would have failed, the reason for this was that old computer systems were programmed using COBOL, the computers that ran this software had very little memory, so little in fact that programmers had to save space as much as possible, so instead of saving dates as a 4 digit year it only saved it as two so instead of the comuters moving from 1999 to 2000 it would have moved from 99 to 00.
Since the 1970's, computer engineers had been telling governments that the problem needed to be fixed and it was only in the 2 years before the Millenium that they realised they had to fix the problem, if they hadn't corrected the problem or the world would be a very different place today.
Chemical and power plants would have be confused by the wrong data and would have probably shut down or had errors, when you consider how many chemical plants, power plants transport systems that relied on this information worldwide it was very likely that some of them would have caused catastrophes and a lot of people could have died, the banking system was one of the first institutions to use COBOL and had been doing so for almost 40 years, no one had any idea what might happen if a bank suddenly didn't know what date is was, it was suspected billions in the banking system might just disappear as it was only stored as an electronic credit.
So that was what all the fuss about the Millenium bug was about and why it was important to fix it, it wasn't some myth concocted by end of the world nuts.
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Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 4:20 pm Post subject: |
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| HairyToes wrote: | | KCLiVES wrote: | ROFFFFFFFFFFFFL anyone with any amount of common sense can see that that is *censored*.
As for:
"As for the polar reversal, every few hundred thousand years the magnetic poles reverse without warning, nobody knows when this will happen, yes the results could be catastrophic, but it is impossible to predict when, and if it does happen everything on the planet will be killed instantly as the atmosphere would be stripped off the planet and everything on the planet would be bombarded by cosmic rays killing it instantaneously, if they really believed this was going to happen why are they taking precautions to survive it?, as it is utterly impossible to survive as the planets surface would be irradiated, cooked to a crisp and no atmosphere would be left and every drop of water on teh planet would have boiled off into steam and drifted off into space."
Since when does polar reversal cause the atmosphere to be stripped off? Polar reversal will happen soon enough, the earths magnetic north moves around 1m south each year. All it will do is screw up GPS and satellites.... for which, no doubt we will be prepared. |
The Earths Magnetic field charges the ionosphere, which deflects the majority of Cosmic Radiation, any interuption to that process will cause the ionosphere to depolarize and allow radiation to hit the surface.
Seems to me you are confusing the effect of solar flares with the effect of polar shift, I suggest you go back and read my original post, if you do not believe me go and ask your physics teacher. |
What!
Since when can a magnetic field charge a gas? The particles within the ionosphere become charged due to solar winds and cosmic rays :\
If I'm getting confused can you please explain exactly what you mean.
I mean wtf? Your statement basically says... geomagnetic reversal causes the destruction of Earth? How do you explain previous reversals??_________________ 
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Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 5:31 pm Post subject: |
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Well I am only telling you what was show in a documentary on the Discovery channel.
I am not sure what universe you are from but in this one gases can be charged by magnetic polarity, have you never witnessed a flame being turned into charged plasma, or do you not do those sort of exprements at your school?
You will be telling me next that lightbulbs are a figment of my imagination.
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Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 7:06 pm Post subject: |
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| HairyToes wrote: | Well I am only telling you what was show in a documentary on the Discovery channel.
I am not sure what universe you are from but in this one gases can be charged by magnetic polarity, have you never witnessed a flame being turned into charged plasma, or do you not do those sort of exprements at your school?
You will be telling me next that lightbulbs are a figment of my imagination. |
A flame is a plasma by definition, not a gas. Gases are not charged and therefore not affected by magnets. Plasma is a form of charged gas, so is affected by magnets. The magnet, however does not induce the charge, the plasma is charged anyway as I said previously. Again by your workings, every time you move a magnet the air around it would become charged.... does that happen? No.
So it seems you have your facts wrong again
Also, don't try to insult my intelligence by being patronising, I don't suppose you're doing Physics at university are you? No.
Next?_________________ 
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Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 8:36 pm Post subject: |
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| HairyToes wrote: | | No I am not doing Physics at University, just high school, seems you are the one doing the patronising, I presume that you are doing Physics at University? whoopee do for you. |
Was that you admitting you were wrong?_________________ 
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